Dear Copernicus,
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.
Well, first off, my old college English professor would fall over dead if he
knew I joined a supposed intelligent group of people who can't even spell the
term: psychological. I don't know you but I presume you know me so we can
understand that obviously there is something you want from me. What might that
be sir? I checked out your site and I don't agree with the things you have to
say so why would you want me to join your group? I bore easily.
Love is the law, love under will.
Frater Infinitus Discipulus, 0*=0*
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From: copernicus12223 Sent: 13/04/2005 12:34 PM
And they should be they have access to nuclear weapons and can anhialate a small country if they wish.
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From: copernicus12223 Sent: 13/04/2005 12:36 PM
From : Damien Leadbeater
Sent : April 12, 2005 9:53:54 PM
To : deanr0032@hotmail.com
Subject : Hehe, you've got to be joking...
Dear Copernicus,
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.
Well, first off, my old college English professor would fall over dead if he
knew I joined a supposed intelligent group of people who can't even spell the
term: psychological. I don't know you but I presume you know me so we can
understand that obviously there is something you want from me. What might that
be sir? I checked out your site and I don't agree with the things you have to
say so why would you want me to join your group? I bore easily.
Love is the law, love under will.
Frater Infinitus Discipulus, 0*=0*
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From: copernicus12223 Sent: 13/04/2005 1:01 PM
All we have to do is look at the members who were disfellowshipped or refused to join and we find the link to multistalking. The reason the police do not get involved is self explanatory. Just look up how many presidents were freemason. In the military look at the similarity of hazing to freemason rituals. Then look at the citizens of ontario screaming for their children back. "Childrens aid society". Check out hundreds of documents of the Freemason watch. No longer will I stand back and look away while freemason literally rape and pillage innocent families. I do not care how big and bad they are they must be stopped before the kkk start parading down the street with the protection of these clowns. I have seen documents linking freemason to aryan nations and the third reich. Government documents on this site prove a fellowship between c.s.i.s and the white supremacy movement (Val Meradith's minority report). JTF1 Canadas elite army robs banks and get caught, criminal gangs freely buy componants to rob the atm's. The criminal gangs all made up of landed immigrants and again I have found documents of C.S.I.S turning immigration into a personal recruitment of operatives. Then there is Robert L Thompsett trying to recruit me and Craig Murry playing the villain. This started after I spotted an interesting site. John hitchison's lab was raided and police and other men confiscated it using a gun collection scam. Studying the technology I noticed the capability they could of caused the black out. Looking further I discover the technology is the basis for psychotronic weaponry. Robert L Thompsett tells me he was a analyst in london who has ties to MI-6. I believe him he is an englishman in the middle quebec wearing bum close. Owns a media outlet and has a credit card and on top of that uses laboready and ability moving to achieve anything he wants. He told me lady dianne was killed by the church using MI-6 agents again I believe him as I looked up Diannes muslim boyfriend and the father still calling for justice.
After reading Gramsi's master plan and a lucky key word search I find robert again attacking the catholic church. I find a fabian society and some other strategies that link these people to the multistalking. Now I find a link to the oldest religion on earth, the freemasons. I looked up freemason and found freemason watch and not only that I have found sites describing the technology.
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From: copernicus12223 Sent: 13/04/2005 1:05 PM
From : Damien Leadbeater
Sent : April 13, 2005 12:59:36 PM
To : "dean Ray"
Subject : RE: About multistalking...
Dear Ray,
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.
To be prefectly honest with you, we're too busy having fundraisers and helping
people to have any time to stalk anyone. And when we're not doing that, we're
putting on degree work or at a reunion at the Temple. Also, if ever a supposed
Freemason seeks you out to join, that's not credible. You CAN'T get into a true
Blue Lodge in that manner. You have to petition the lodge. If a lodge is
seeking you out, tell them no way because they're breaking the rules. They
don't have the resources or time to stalk one person to join their lodge, man
that's just ridiculous...
I have plenty of time to chat and you aren't bothering me, however I am bound by
oath not to join a group such as yours and believe me I'd NEVER break that oath.
It's an oath to MYSELF and it's unbreakable. Let's just say it appears
breakable but isn't. If you're so alarmed about Freemasonry, whyw would you
contact one? You know I am a 32nd Degree Scottish Rite, a member of the Order
of the Eastern Star, an initiate of B.O.T.A., O.T.O., and a Probationer (active)
of the Order of the A.'.A.'. in Dallas, Texas. I can tell you anything you want
to know about these groups within certain limits. I know Senators, Congressman,
and very likely people that you would not mention above a whisper. But when we
get together as a brotherhood, everyone is equal in each others' eyes and we're
out for the good of ALL mankind (and womankind) for those with bias issues.
Well I gotta run, but you have a nice day sir!
Love is the law, love under will.
Frater Infinitus Discipulus
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From: copernicus12223 Sent: 13/04/2005 1:16 PM
letter to leadbetter
I know you have the ear of powerful people that would explain why i contacted you. I am bringing a lot of people together. This experimentation on the people must stop Robert L tHompsett and Craig Murry must stop their recruiting in your name. A lot of innocent people are tried and convicted because gangs set up in your name tell people they join or never work again or worse they go through psychological warfare. I am angry bitter and let down by justice. I can not expect you to answer for the crimes because you are in a secret society and have no clue what these guys are doing with your name.
teslacoils2005
Canada
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tut tut tesla
still up to your silly rabbit games
and strange delusions
You want a reason to be paranoid then here it is
every phonecall
every email
every transaction
every job
every thing
is noted
hell, your active cellphone locates you in a 10m radius 24/7
and the next time you buy a tube of toothpaste
or a pair of shoes
find the small silver antenna and ask yourself what it is there for
and
there are two types of passive gates at stores.
the big ones you see, plastic, 1.5m tall, obvious
and the little ones you dont
you do nothing and go nowhere without being watched
To: canadien_spies_like_us@yahoogroups.com
From: "C Murray"
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:41:09 -0000
Subject: [canadien_spies_like_us] Re: tut tut silly rabbit
--- In canadien_spies_like_us@yahoogroups.com, "teslacoils2004"
> Answer to number 1.
>
> I aggree, but if they are stuped and the people who hire them
are
> not so swift, well anything can happen. Jails are full of stuped
> people bragging about who they really are.
there are very few stupid people being hired by ones just as stupid
in the intel community. it would not work if there were. the
entrance requirements are just too damn high. in Canada to do the
most basic of work with CSIS, and by that I mean interviews for visa
applications and simple things like that you still must have a
university degree, pass a lot of tests (including IQ etc) and go
through a rigorous training program. Anyone stupid who is in the
community does not last. Jails are full of stupid people period.
>
> Answer to number 2.
>
> You are right he did get the adrenaline going (Randy Sato). If
> you could keep him sober long enough he might just end up
graduating
> assassins school.
haha. unless this school is advertised inthe back of soldier of
fortune there just 'aint such a thing'. the closest might be
something like 10 years in the army, moving quickly through the
ranks, transfer to spec4 of some sort then off for 'advanced
training' but other than in bad golan globus films there isnt such a
thing
>
> Answer to number 3.
>
> lied. I thought he should keep one step into reality.
true for most things and most people
To: canadien_spies_like_us@yahoogroups.com
From: "C Murray"
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:04:17 -0000
Subject: [canadien_spies_like_us] Re: tut tut silly rabbit
--- In canadien_spies_like_us@yahoogroups.com, "teslacoils2004"
> excerpt from article:
there is a whole world of difference between hiring a criminal for
the purposes of investigating other criminals with the intent of
prosecution (a paid informer) and an intel wog.
--- In canadien_spies_like_us@yahoogroups.com, "teslacoils2004"
> who da rabbit.....lmao
still must be you
because you and your friends in their dementia are still batting 000
To: canadien_spies_like_us@yahoogroups.com
From: "spymanofsdsa"
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 06:50:21 -0000
Subject: [canadien_spies_like_us] Having fun?
Up to your old games again, I see, Craig. Thought you'd wisen up one
day. Tesla, be carefull, your playing with fire. I've been watching
this asshole for years now. Can't tell you how many "jobs" he has
had. One thing I have to say for you Craig, your a man of many
talents.
To: canadien_spies_like_us@yahoogroups.com
From: "spymanofsdsa"
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 01:10:30 -0000
Subject: [canadien_spies_like_us] Tesla
I just spoke to cap and he is very concerned about your mental
stability. He told me that you took my post earlier seriously. I am
sorry, but I posted that as a joke. He had told me you were paranoid
and I could come here and see for myself. I thought he was joking
and I thought you both would get a laugh out of it. I made up the
spyman name and sdsa stands for super duper spy agency. As he has
pointed out to me, he wasn't joking and he is very concerned about
your mental health. I've read your posts and I am too. You really
are showing a lot of Paranoia. Please tell your doctor about it. He
can help you. I've known Cap for a long time, he is not a spy, or a
federal agent or anything of that nature. Cap designs buildings for
a living. That is the only job he holds. He's never done any of the
things you think he has. Please talk to a doctor. I am sorry for
misleading you.
To: canadien_spies_like_us@yahoogroups.com
From: "C Murray"
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 02:33:28 -0000
Subject: [canadien_spies_like_us] Re: man o man
this is little more than venting of rampant paranoia. readin the
accounts of the delusional we are dealing with the following
1. schizophrenia
2. night terrors
3. lies
4. imagination
no one ever has any real evidence, no fingerprints, no photos, no
tape recordings, same bullshit talk 'they are too good to make those
mistakes'
hahaha
even the most profesisonal will leave a trace, period.
so
in closing
this, all of it, is paranoia that requires medical attention. most
of the manic behaviour can be treated easily by your physician. you
can get better.
the internet has opened a world of possibilities and futures.
information exchanged, knowledge gained, lessons learned.
however
it seems at times that 99% of it is devoted to sex and a meeting
place for the lost, sad and imbalanced to spread their disease.
No one is hunting, trapping, treating, abusing or terrorizing you.
you might be, you might be imagining it, but no lawful authority is.
there is no reason to do it and everyone needs a reason. what are
they trying to do, disprupt construction in your area? why wouldnt
they go for a union boss or a senior manager? they would, plain and
simply.
the truth is that no one is doing anything to you. your life is
****ed because you spend most of your time looking for spooks,
fearing spooks, talking about spooks, or imagining spooks. but there
arent any. its a lot easier to blame everything on these unseen
asassins but at some point you have to come to the realization that
they do not exist. this is paranoia possibly with deeper issues.
On a more serious note. You spend a lot of time in your ramblings
identifying people by name or by specific characteristics that
identify them. if you are not careful you could end up being sued,
taken to court or arrested for criminal mischief etc.
If you want to have fantasies about spies etc then fine, but give
them really good pretend names like agent orange or doctor
strangelove.
I am outta here. I only showed up in the first place because you
wrote that little lie about meeting me.
Seriously, take care of yourself, get a better grip on reality, stop
worrying about this bullshit, seek professional help, hey, if nothing
else, maybe a visit to the doctor with complete bloodwork etc could
prove your argument that you are being drugged etc. go to just a
walk in clinic at random where you know nobody could have set
anything up.
and always try to remember, this is the truth above all others when
dealing with the government. is there a budget for it.
everyone at every level has to validate their budgetary
requirements. if there really was a department of screwing people
around can you honestly see this dialogue taking place.
"Well boys, money is tight again this year, those pinkos on the hill
have cut our budget again, so who are we going to screw with?"
"Osama sir?"
"nope"
"foreign operatives living here illegally"
"nah"
"criminals, mob bosses, drug dealers"
"nope, nope and nope. I have a better idea, lets screw with a
contract construction worker and temp agent."
"wow sir, now I know why you are in charge?"
that sounds unrealistic, dopey and obviously false
and there is a reason for that
IT IS
THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT AGENCY DOING JACK SHIT TO YOU
YOU ARE IMAGINING IT OR MAKING IT UP
it all comes down to what the hell would be the point?
there isnt one for any of us cause sadly, we just are not that
important on the worlds stage.
so, to all the people here
take care
good luck
try to remember it isnt real
To: canadien_spies_like_us@yahoogroups.com
From: "C Murray"
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 04:32:13 -0000
Subject: [canadien_spies_like_us] Re: spin doctors
--- In canadien_spies_like_us@yahoogroups.com, "teslacoils2004"
> It does look that way unfortunately ....It looks anyway you
want
> it to look. Spindoctors are very good
spindoctors, holy crap what an ego, what an inflated sense of self.
why the hell would some secret organization be dicking around with a
heavy equipment operator? think about it rationally for a moment.
if you were this great threat to the secret order of water buffalos
then why not just shoot you in the back of the head
done deal
life is ****ed
its not fair
its not easy
its not what we want
but
if we are honest with ourselves
honest with others
honest with an appreciation of our strengths and weaknesses then we
can overcome them
if we spend all our time living in fantasies of secret agents and
cover-ups then that is all we will see
sorry man
none of us are that important to really rate that sort of attention.
we have a society of males all dreaming they are mulder and the
illuminatus is out to get them and scully's baby
well horseshit
now a while back i said about everything being recorded
that was a test statement
see everything is recorded
but not for the reasons you think
that statement is to allow you to run with your personality and see
if you are paranoid or not.
a normal person says yeah, what about it
a person who is paranoid says yeah see i told you so
the banks keep records cause they have to by law
the phone compnay keeps records so they can bill you
the little labels inside bottles are for marketing or anti theft
its all so goddamn banal and mercantile commonplace that we should
shrug it off and ignore it
but
we have to peer out from between the blinds and see every car as
agents of x. the guy standing by the tree isnt cursing a sore knee
he is secretly photographing you or transmitting radio signals into
your fillings
its all such bullshit
anyone who knows anything 'dangerous' is either trustworthy or dead.
that is the whole truth in a nutshell. no one in bars or parks or
tim hortons knows shit. important people dont hang out there hoping
to talk to anyone about anything
get over the paranoia
get over the desperate search for someone to blame
and just get on with living a happy, fulfilled and satisfied life
From: "teslacoils2004"
Date: Sat Apr 17, 2004 1:41 am
Subject: Later in a private message
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From: "C Murray"
To: teslacoils2004@y...
Subject: you need to seek professional help
you need to seek professional help before you hurt yourself or
someone else.
heres the whole story
1. when you got abusive iasked you to leave the writers group
you didnt but instead sent a whole bunch of nasty emails to one of
the female members. i forwarded the lot of them to your isp. how
did i know your isp, simple, you sent me an email once from your home
pc (i guess) that ended in whatever.com (i dont remember the name)
I asked them to ask you to stop joining and doing this
they sent back an email asking what i wanted to see done and i said
just give him a warning and he should stop
well i guess they either had other complaints about you or had a very
hardline policy cause its news to me you were disconnected
as for being in law enforcement
I NEVER SAID I WAS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT
yeah i am a federal officer but not what you think
yeah I have done intel work but again, not what you think
I was an officer in the reserves (part time army)
now this gives me about as much clout as well...it doesnt give me any
****ing clout. a 14 year old girl can phone the chief of the defense
department but i couldnt
so
as for blaming me for doing all this shit, get real, get a grip, take
a pill something. i paid you **** all attention until i find out you
are ****ing with me. i dont know you. i dont really give a flying
fart about you. other than being a member of the same writing group
i have had nothing to do with you
listen carefully. i dont know you. i have nothing, zero, zip to do
with you. i would not know who you were if you walked up to me and
shook my hand. if i was some sort of secret agent, would i have my
picture on the net? **** of course not. THINK ABOUT IT
holy crap man you do need professional help.
and as far as my work with law enforcement goes, yeah i do help out a
lot. i work with and am friends with a lot of cops. just normal
joes who do their work and argue with their wives and write speeding
tickets. my work involves helping to set up and manage youth help
centres. i work with cops to give kids a safe place to go.
ooooooooooooooh kinda spooky eh. and thats it
As for intel, ready for it. i volunteered with a think tank
organization that monitored SOVIET military movements. now that
pretty much dates it doesnt it, cause there isnt even a soviet union
anymore.
again, i know you are not going to believe anything. i know you are
so caught up in this fantasy world of yours you will maintain it
right up until they toss you in the rubber room.
as for the comment by the other person, spymanfromsdsa, that was a
friend of mine who i said 'gotta read this, this is serirously ****ed
up'. they thought it would be funny to post something and stir the
shit up a little because they know i have **** all to do with any of
your fantasies. i never responded to anything they said and they
never wrote back cause i was pissed at them. as i said, i think this
guy has some serious issues that need to be dealt with professionally.
by the way, the sdsa stands for 'super duper spy agency'
kinda funny eh
as for being sued. if you get sued for libel or slander you dont get
a lawyer for free. those are civil cases and if you walk into a
court and say 'your honour this guy is some secret agent who is
trailing after me and screwing with my life'
not only will the judge find for the person suing you, he will
probably reccomend you see a doctor.
i work a forty hour plus week designing buildings, surveying
property, dealing with the city building department and managing
construction. this has been pretty much my full time work since
about 1985 when i finished school. i have only ever worked in
construction engineering and architecture. 2 weeks ago the spymaster
(me) took a day long course in 'designing concrete slabs on grade'.
does thi ssound like super duper spy work.
my secret agent spy schedule of yeasterday was as follows
730
arrive at office, talk to construction crews
830
prepare drawings and prints for field. collect 4 cans orange survey
paint, plus nails and my 30m tape measure
1030
get pickup truck from yard, load survey shit in back, pick up survey
assistant, drive to site
1130
stop at tim hortons near site, get lunch drive to job site
1145-3pm
walk around surveying the elevations of the site so i can go back to
the office and figure out how many square meters a day are being
moved by the heavy equipment operators. (we have 2 350 excavators
and a hoe ram plus 2 rock trucks needing to move about 38000 cubic
meters)
i also stepped through what i thought was solid ice but was in fact a
4' deep hole and almost broke my friggin leg
3pm
finish survey, got back in the truck, drove right across the city to
another site, laid out the corners of the building we are making so
that the crews can dig the foundation and lay in a construction
road. almost punctured a tire on some rebar sticking out of the
ground (would have been very pissed)
5pm
back to office
530pm home
630
arrive home
eat dinner
700
take kid to sports practice
830
home
930
watch futurama
11
bed
now where the hell in that schedule am i supposed to fit in
1. take over the world
2. ruin some guys life that i dont know and dont give a shit about
think for *&*&^ sake
now, if i want to i can do the following
1. contact yahoo groups. tell them you are using this site to write
slanderous things about me. they will take a look, they will see the
comments you the moderator have written with my name in them. they
will remind you of the acceptable use policy and delete the site.
its not the super duper spy agency at work, its just common sense
From: "teslacoils2004"
Date: Sat Apr 17, 2004 1:54 am
Subject: Re: Later in a private message
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From: "C Murray"
To: teslacoils2004@y...
i dont know who you are
i dont care about who you are
and i have nothing to do with you until such times as you screw with
me and i react
well you are verging or passing the point where laws are being
broken. you are leaving me little choice but to take immediate and
drastic action.
you can do the following
1. post the truth.
you can post immediately that you have never met me, that you lied
about meeting me and that it is all in good fun that got out of hand
or i will be forced to contact the police and let them deal with you.
I do not have the time to deal with your paranoid fantasies and lies
seek professional help in dealing with your mental problems
and thnk about it
even if thinking is not what you do best
if i was some master spy controlling the government would i be
emailing you just now?
From: "C Murray"
Date: Wed Mar 3, 2004 11:56 pm
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